BURNING THE GROUND EXCLUSIVE 1984
“Mothers Talk” is a 1984 song by the British band Tears for Fears. Written by Roland Orzabal and Ian Stanley and sung by Orzabal, it was the band’s seventh single release (the first to be taken from their second album Songs from the Big Chair (1985) and fifth UK Top 40 chart hit. The song was released six months in advance of the album and showcased the band’s edgier sound, as compared to their debut LP The Hurting (1983). It was also a moderate success internationally.
“Mothers Talk” was written in 1983 and was first publicly performed during the band’s late 1983 tour. In early 1984, the band went into the studio to record the song as their next single, though the recording sessions with their new producer Jeremy Green did not work out as planned and the recording was scrapped. The band’s previous producer, Chris Hughes, was then brought back into the fold and the song was re-recorded and finally released as a single in August 1984. Hughes stayed on with the band to record their second album, Songs from the Big Chair.
Along with its B-side, “Empire Building”, “Mothers Talk” was one of the first Tears for Fears songs to demonstrate a creative use of sampling. The strings at the beginning of the song were culled from a Barry Manilow record, while the drum sample around which “Empire Building” is built was lifted from the Simple Minds song “Today I Died Again”. This was the second Tears for Fears single for which Phonogram Records would use the picture disc and coloured vinyl gimmicks as a promotional tool, as well as the first one to feature multiple 12″ releases offering different remixes of the track. Limited quantities of the 7″ single also came with a free Tears For Fears window sticker of the band’s new logo.
SIDE A:
Mothers Talk (Extended Version) 6:17
Producer – Chris Hughes
Written-By – Stanley*, Orzabal*
SIDE B:
Empire Building 2:50
Written-By – Smith*, Stanley*, Orzabal*
VINYL GRADE:
Vinyl: Near Mint
Sleeve: Near Mint
RELEASE INFORMATION:
Label: Mercury – IDEA 712, Mercury – 818 388-1
Format: Vinyl, 12″, 45 RPM, Single
Country: UK
Released: 13 Aug 1984
Genre: Electronic, Rock
Style: New Wave, Synth-pop
CREDITS:
Backing Vocals – Stevie Lange
Design – J.B.*, Peter Jones (15)
Mastered By – Timtom*
Photography By – Mike Prior (2)
NOTES:
Track B was not produced
Find the 12″ on DISCOGS
EQUIPMENT USED:
Turntable: Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (DC)
Cartridge: Ortofon 2M
Stylus: Ortofon 2M Bronze
Isolation: Auralex Acoustics ISO-Tone Turntable Isolation Platform
Platter: Pro-Ject Acryl-It platter
Stabilizer: Pro-Ject Record Puck
Phono Pre-amp: Bellari VP130 Tube Phono Preamp
Tube: Tung-Sol 12AX7ECC803-S Gold Electron Tube
Soundcard: ESI Juli@
Record Cleaning: VPI HW 16.5 Record Cleaning Machine
Artwork Scans: Brother MFC-6490CW Professional Series Scanner
SOFTWARE USED:
Recording/Editing: Adobe Audition 3.0 (Recording)
Down Sampling: iZotope RX Advanced 2
Artwork Editor: Adobe Photoshop CS5
Click Removal: Manual
FLAC/MP3 Conversion: dBpoweramp
M3U Playlist: Playlist Creator
RESTORATION NOTES:
All vinyl rips are recorded @ 32bit/float
FLAC (Level Eight)
MP3 (320kbps)
Artwork scanned at 600dpi
Thanks alot for those wonderful tracks. Greetings from Chile
Sowing the seeds of love… the seeds of love!!!!
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Tears for Fears Songs from the Big Chair was a album full of quality tracks, that still sound fantastic today.
Mothers Talk, Shout, Everybody Wants to Rule the World and my favourite Head over Heels.
I remember buying the video CD of Shout, you could play the audio part on a normal CD, the tracklisting for the audio was
Shout.
Everybody Wants To Rule The World (Urban Mix Edit).
Shout (U.S.A Remix).
Thanks Paul for a brilliant post.
I once had the 7″ single w/ Tears For Fears window sticker … it was inserted backwards at the plant, melted against the record and ruined the vinyl. I could only ever play the B side.
Oh my!! This is quite a rare gem. The vinyl version of this of course. I stumbled upon this mix on Retro:Active6 and apparently this was never released in CD till the super deluxe edition of SFTBG came out and included it.
Thank you for this fantastic post Dj PaulT! 🙂
How can I call myself a Tears For Fears fan when I didn’t even know this was a single release … and I was an 80’s child! Thanks for bringing this out of the cold – you got me searching. I didn’t know about the deluxe re-release, let alone the Super-Deluxe Re-release (!)
Just more music to track down to listen to 🙂
I’m embarrassed to admit I didn’t even know this was a single. But then I was very much (and will always remain) staunchly in the ‘Curt Smith was the better front man’ camp. I can never forgive Roland for how he treated Curt once the TfF ball gained significant momentum.
Having said that, Head Over Heels was a triumph. I must go and watch Donnie Darko again….
PAUL!!! Oh…mY……GGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOD!!! I almost don’t know how to tell you this, but, here goes: THANK YOU FOR THIS EXTENDED VERSION!!! I mean, “Mothers Talk” is awesome, and I am familiar with this mix, but the really big surprise here is that incredible flip-side, “Empire Building.” What a song it is. It’s like they have “Art of Noised” The Art of Noise!! I love these bombastic singles that are weird, experimental, creative and wild. Gee, I know I’m probably the minority here Paul in that I so crave the unusual and unexpected. Sure, and as you know, I love my 80’s… Read more »
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Funny. Just as I open your site and see Mother´s Talk, I am listening to the original 1982 12inch version of Pale Shelter 🙂 Well, who wouldn´t love TFF? Timeless and priceless.
Thank you for MT, Paulie. I am looking forward to replacing my own rip with your excellent quality.
Have a nice weekend, all of you out there 🙂
Love Pale Shelter Song and Dance. Have a nice weekend too 🙂
Well well we really didn’t have to wait too long for that next ‘Classic’. Well done and many thanks! Have a good weekend, Sir.
Thank you Neil. Have a great weekend 🙂
Thanks Paul.
You’re welcome Omar 🙂
This was the first Tears For Fears single I ever heard Paul. Brings back memories from my College days. Many thanks for this one in your glorious DjPaulT sound.
Have a great day and marvelous weekend!!!
Jeff
You too Jeff have a great weekend 🙂
Quite literally my FAVORITE TFF single! Thanks Paul!
I think this one and “Mad World” are my favorites 🙂 Have a great weend.